Wednesday, November 24, 2010

(pilots) disdain for the TSA checkpoint worker. They are “the government equivalent of being a Wendy's burger flipper,

"I stood there, an American citizen, a mom traveling with a baby with special needs formula, sexually assaulted by a government official. I began shaking and felt completely violated, abused and assaulted by the TSA agent. I shook for several hours, and woke up the next day shaking." Blogger Erin Chase

"The woman who checked me reached her hands inside my underwear and felt her way around." ABC News producer Carolyn Durand

"She said 'spread your legs.' And then she took her full palms and started at my neck and ran all the way down my body, full palms, constant contact. And when she got down to my feet, she was in constant contact from my ankles all the way up to my groin, across my groin, and down the other leg. And she did that twice." Wendy James Gigliotti

"The female officer ran her hand up the inside of my leg to my groin and she did it so hard and so rough she lifted me off my heels." Female air traveler Ella Swift

"She put her full hand on my breast and said, 'What is this?'. And I said, 'It's my prosthesis because I've had breast cancer.' And she said, 'Well, you'll need to show me that'." Flight attendant Cathy Bossi

"I think we all understand the concerns Americans have. It's something new. Most Americans are not used to a real law enforcement pat-down like that." Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano

"One agent watched as the other used his flat hand to go slowly down my chest. I tried to warn him that he would hit the bag and break the seal on my bag, but he ignored me. Sure enough, the seal was broken and urine started dribbling down my shirt and my leg and into my pants."
A 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor

"Molester, pervert, disgusting, an embarrassment, creep. These are all words I have heard today at work describing me. ...These comments are painful and demoralizing." An anonymous TSA worker

If some total stranger walked up to you in the street and said "I am either going to see you naked or touch your genitals", What would be the likelihood of that person walking away from that encounter? Robert Colella

"As an experienced traveler for work who was in tears for most of the search process, I have never experienced a more traumatic and invasive travel event!" CNN employee Rosemary Fitzpatrick

I will not board an airplane in America until the TSA body scanners are gone. No one is seeing my naked body unless I let them. I will also not settle for being GROPED in public as an alternative. Meagan Quinn

"As the TSA agent was frisking plaintiff, the agent pulled the plaintiff’s blouse completely down, exposing plaintiffs’ breasts to everyone in the area."
A lawsuit filed on behalf of a female college student from Amarillo Texas

The sexual humiliation of detainees at Abu Ghraib is not so very different then the sexual humiliation being heaped on American air travelers at airports. Why is TSA torturing us to protect us? Bruce Sargent

"My experience with TSA was a nightmare I had to endure. No one deserves to be treated this way."
A 37-year-old Texas woman who had her nipple ring removed with a pair of pliers before she was allowed to pass through security

"So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers." A soldier returning from Afghanistan

The agent went up my right leg first and then met my vagina with full force….the same on the other leg with the same result. She then used both of her hands to feel my breasts and squeezing them. At this point I was in shock. A flight attendant named Megan

I spend on average $30K per year on business travel. The airlines get the bulk of this but hotels, car rentals, meals and miscellaneous expenses add up as well. Where I can cut travel, I will. When those associated with airport travel feel the financial pinch just watch how fast this all will change. Jay Glover

It is difficult to imagine New Yorkers being porno-screened and sexually groped on crowded subway platforms or showing up an hour or two in advance for clearance for a 15 minute subway ride, but once bureaucrats get the bit in their teeth they take absurdity to its logical conclusion. Paul Craig Roberts

"Not if I could avoid it. No. I mean, who would?" Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when asked if she would like to go through the new pat-downs

"If you are asking me, am I going to change my policies? No." TSA Administrator John Pistole during a Congressional hearing

"I Think You're Doing A Terrific Job." U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller to TSA chief John Pistole

I introduced legislation last week that is based on a very simple principle: federal agents should be subject to the same laws as ordinary citizens. If you would face criminal prosecution or a lawsuit for groping someone, exposing them to unwelcome radiation, causing them emotional distress, or violating indecency laws, then TSA agents should similarly face sanctions for their actions.
" Congressman Ron Paul


Story on Daily Beasts points to the issues as pilots see it. In truth the Joke is on us.

To those intrepid American travelers who plan on confronting those TSA functionaries at Airports across America. I salute you. See is the We Won't Fly, Opt Out Travel With Dignity website set up as a grass roots movement. While it will be a hardship for many people stuck on line who want or need to travel it is a fight for common sense and decency. We have rights as Americans and they should not be violated. The TSA needs a more rational policy. It is time to STOP being politically correct. Profiling targeted groups or suspicious individuals is far more rational and not racist but realistic. But read on my friends and see what the professionals think.

When the uproar about body scanners and pat-downs began bubbling up, the pilots’ union for American Airlines began pushing for pilots to be exempt—something the TSA eventually granted. The logic promoted by the union was simple: Nothing pilots might bring through security could rival the aircraft they control for sheer lethality. That’s a widely held view among pilots, but a minority worries about a different scenario. Suppose a pilot were blackmailed—by a threat against family, say—to carry something through security and hand it off to a hypothetical bad guy once past the checkpoint? In this view, the exemption for pilots could leave air travel susceptible to so-called proxy bomb tactics, which were used at one point by the Irish Republican Army.

One frequent complaint in online discussions is that applying security measures indiscriminately means resources are being wasted. In other words, while TSA workers are patting down the crying child in the YouTube video, the real bad guy might be cruising through. In this view, political correctness and a reluctance to single out subsets of travelers are weakening the system. Profiling need not be racial, some pilots point out, but could instead be behavioral—singling out passengers for extra screening based on suspicious answers to interview questions.

If there is one theme that emerges clearly time and again in pilots’ online discussions, it’s disdain for the TSA checkpoint worker. They are “the government equivalent of being a Wendy's burger flipper,” according to one typical comment from “Barney Fife is more suited for their job,” writes another. Anecdotes frequently portray TSA workers as mindlessly hewing to procedures at the expense of exercising the judgment needed to sniff out the evildoers.

If the goal of body scanners and pat-downs is to detect explosives secreted somewhere on the body, then the solution from the terrorists' point of view is obvious and long known to drug mules, say some pilots. Instead of traveling on the body, the bomb will need to go inside the body. And since “enhanced” security hasn’t yet moved to the point of routine cavity searches, the scanners and pat-downs don’t provide foolproof protection even as they prompt all kinds of drama. (Writing for The Daily Beast recently, former cop Bill Richardson sized up the pat-downs with a similar analysis.)

Another frequent complaint among pilots on the boards is how TSA measures appear reactive rather than proactive. A foiled plot using explosives hidden in printer cartridges is followed by a ban on printer cartridges, and so on. Where is the evidence, some pilots wonder, that the TSA is looking at the next threat instead of the last one? “The whole idea of TSA is to lock the barn door after the horse has been stolen. All they do is protect us from a plot that has already failed,” complains one commentator.

If pilots are this exasperated, what must the customers feel like? In this view, the TSA’s consistent bumbling and public-relations lapses are starting to threaten the livelihood of the pilots. “For every passenger that vocally opposes this, there is also at least one that will likely stay silent and stay home. I imagine this will likely start affecting traffic by the first of the year, if not before,” wrote one participant on

Some argue that each time the TSA ratchets up the measures applied to passengers, it fails to crack down similarly on the myriad airport workers with access to the facilities and planes beyond the checkpoint. A few airport workers chime into these discussions with descriptions of relatively lax procedures that might allow terrorists to circumvent the TSA choke points.

If the need for close-body searches is so vital—prompting the requirement for pat-downs for anyone who doesn’t want to go through a body scanner—then why isn’t the TSA patting down everyone at the airports that haven’t yet introduced the scanners? TSA officials themselves have said one reason they avoid giving details about new measures is to keep from providing intelligence to would-be terrorists. But some wonder if it’s really that hard for bad guys to figure out that they should go to an airport without the scanners.

Pilots are particularly attuned to the health dangers of radiation, since airliner crews are exposed to more of it than the average person. (Up at 35,000 feet, there’s much less of the Earth’s atmosphere to shield humans from cosmic radiation.) So amid a debate over just how much of a health threat is posed by the backscatter X-ray devices used to conduct full-body scans in some airports, more than a few crew members aren’t reassured by government assertions that there’s no danger. “I am already exposed to enough radiation while spending 18 hours a day on a plane,” wrote one poster, explaining why he opted out of the body scan.

It’s practically a staple of the aviation message boards: pointing out how members of the media aren’t sufficiently schooled on matters of flying and criticizing the coverage that results. (Surely this report won’t escape the wrath of some commenters, either.) Each time a story is published with a technical error, the heckling begins anew. In the view of some pilots, journalists just don’t get it—and more broadly, no one who isn’t a pro can truly understand what’s needed in aviation now." Thomas E. Weber The Daily Beast.

Common sense, it would be too much to ask.
TSA Administrator Pistole: No New Procedures for Screening for the Moment

Taiwanese parody of TSA screening.


American Hate Groups
The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed 18 anti-gay Hate groups.
Go to the Southern Poverty Law Center for more.

*Abiding Truth Ministries
Springfield, Mass.

*American Family Association

*Americans for Truth About Homosexuality

*American Vision

*Chalcedon Foundation
Vallecito, Calif.

Christian Anti-Defamation Commission
Vista, Calif.

Concerned Women for America
Washington, D.C.

Coral Ridge Ministries
Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

*Dove World Outreach Center
Gainesville, Fla.

*Faithful Word Baptist Church
Tempe, Ariz.

*Family Research Council
Washington, D.C.

*Family Research Institute
Colorado Springs, Colo.

*Heterosexuals Organized for a Moral Environment
Downers Grove, Ill.

*Illinois Family Institute
Carol Stream, Ill.

Liberty Counsel
Orlando, Fla.

*Mass Resistance

National Organization for Marriage
Princeton, N.J.

*Traditional Values Coalition
Anaheim, Calif.

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  2. In the link I posted, there was a link to an article in The Nation that this is linked to the Tea Party which prepared in advance.